Is the General Chem 1 Final at Usf Easy

• #1

Gen Chem I was not easy for me. I still got the A but it was not a walk in the park. Now after reviewing for the PCAT, Gen Chem I doesn't look so bad.

I've heard Gen Chem II is like Gen Chem I on steroids. Even still, what is it that makes it a more "challenging" class?

I'm taking it in the Fall and my life depends on scoring an A.

• #4

I am going to agree and say that it is easier than the first semester. Just make sure that you register with a good professor as that can make all the difference. And study and do not fall behind.

• #8

In my Gen chem II class we were not allowed the use of anything past a Ti-83 (basic scientific, no memory) calculator on anything except for lab experiments! Why do I always get the hard-asses.

Because according to your profile you went to somewhat hard-assed schools.

• #10

In my Gen chem II class we were not allowed the use of anything past a Ti-83 (basic scientific, no memory) calculator on anything except for lab experiments! Why do I always get the hard-asses.

TI-30 you mean

Oh pish posh!!! There are PLENTY of easy professors who care more about their research than grading/teaching, even at the farm.

What's the farm?

• #12

Yeah, I did mean the 30. =p I am not an expert at Texas Instruments for sure. I use Casios!!!

The farm is a colloquial nickname for Stanford.

TI rocks calcs.

The farm... as in the crazies?

• #15

Most important things about Gen Chem II ... Strong Algebra/Pre-Calc skills and calculator competency.

This is some wisdom speaking here! If your tests are timed, calculator competency is a huge bonus.

Also, I memorized the molar masses of the most commonly used elements in calculations such as C, Ca, Na, Cl, N, O, etc. Calculator competency, and simple memorization of commonly used numbers will save you upwards to 10 minutes per test.

As for your question - I thought Gen Chem II was freaking hard.. But that's just me. I got out with an A, but I had to put in about 15-20 hours per week into study. I thought the lab was a nightmare also..

• #19

I actually found Gen Chem II easier than Gen Chem I. Had the same prof for both. I had always heard from my friends that if you work hard in Gen I, Gen II isn't terrible.

To the OP, if you think Gen I or Gen II is hard, check us back after you've gotten done with Organic Chemistry I&II and Biochemistry.

• #22

And I will be checking back with you after pharmacology and med chem this fall...

I'm gonna chime in here and say that pharmacology was WAY easier than any of the basic chem courses I took in undergrad.

I found chem to be extremely abstract, at least with pharmacology there was some physiology thrown in so I could at least apply PC concepts to something biological and tangible.

• #23

And I will be checking back with you after pharmacology and med chem this fall...

And you just wait until therapy 3+4!

This is fun.

But seriously, people always say just wait until blah, blah, blah, but the truth is fractions are no easier to a ten year old (or whenever you learn them, can't remember) than Calc 3 is to an engineer student. Learning is learning, regardless of what "level" it is at.

• #25

My old chem professor would staple mcdonald's applications to anyone who scored below the mean, the department chair told him to knock it off.

He was a genius though, I remember his car's license plate was "K LOG W"

• #26

My old chem professor would staple mcdonald's applications to anyone who scored below the mean, the department chair told him to knock it off.

He was a genius though, I remember his car's license plate was "K LOG W"

That is funny.

• #28

What, an application... on paper???? What was that, 1995!?

I wonder where he got them though. Who did he know at a McD's that just let him have hundreds of applications? Did he make photocopies (that'd be easy to tell..)??

yeah they were photocopies, and he'd stick them on scantrons.

no they were not from ditto machines or on plain paper tests, i'm old but i'm not ancient.

maybe i am old, i just said "ditto machine"

• #29

yeah they were photocopies, and he'd stick them on scantrons.

no they were not from ditto machines or on plain paper tests, i'm old but i'm not ancient.

maybe i am old, i just said "ditto machine"

I bet when you need to make copies you "Xerox" them, am I right?

• #32

Do you know what a rotary phone is?

Pssh, I bet he used to send telegrams.

or

Pssh, I bet he still tries to make calls by telling the operator the three digit number

or

Pssh, I bet he still remembers the phonograph

• #34

You must be uber smart then because pharm I and II are supposedly a couple of the hardest classes at our school. Even a couple of the 4.0 students struggled in pharmacology. I guess everyone's different, eh?

it just clicked, but i got killed in kinetics and some class called biopharmaceutics. in fact, i don't even remember taking that class or showing up.

• #37

And I will be checking back with you after pharmacology and med chem this fall...

We don't start pharmacology and med chem until 2nd or 3rd semester.

• #38

Is it weird to find that I am less motivated for Gen I and Gen II, and actually looking forward moreso to Biochem, and somewhat Organic?

I took an intro to Organic/Biochem(chem215, lab 216) at my school before I even took Gen I(chem 121, completing it next Thurs).

It seems like my brain does not comprehend Gen I/II math skills and such very easily, but I actually enjoy biochem and organic.

I felt the same way too back in the day but that quickly changed a few weeks into Orgo I.

• #40

Hey bro don't ruin my hopeful thinking .

But srsly it is very hard for me to want to study Gen Chem. But for the intro to organic/bio chem, I was intersted in studying 20+hrs for exams, and got the 98 percentile on the standardized final. I guess well see in the end.. still got to get past gen chem II first.

Well I guess it's independent on the individual. Orgo is like a foreign language and you have to practice continuously to be good at it (at least for most folks). Chem II was really not that bad to me though.

• #43

Gen chem II is a foreign language to me, one that I am not willing to practice much... I have this thought that the concepts being taught in Gen chem I and II are useless besides in those classes, and that prevents me from really trying to learn the concepts.

But with Organic/Biochem, it seems those things are very applicable to life.. and not just throwing random numbers around.. that motivates me.

You will see a lot of stuff from Gen Chem II again...equilibrium constants, acid-base reactions, half lifes, reaction rates and solubility product constants are just a few. The acid-base reactions popped up in Orgo I&II for me. I hated stereochemistry and synthesizing reactions in Orgo though.

For me, O Chem II was hard, but not so much Ochem I.... Biochem was alot of studying and memorization... it was time consuming, but the concepts were not so bad.... but that's just me. I think biochem II was more difficult than biochem I as well

Well it's all subjective but I agree with you. Orgo II was way harder than Orgo I.

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